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Post by Flyers GM (Justin) on Jun 28, 2015 13:30:54 GMT
Rule Change proposal.....
I could not reply in the appropriate area so please move this if you are an admin....
I would like the 0.5 points per PIM to be lowered to 0.2.....
Reasons
1. PIM are in fact a the product of poor play either by consistently taking bad penalties or lacking the skill to do anything but fight. 2. Steve Downie is the 29th best skater under this format. Look it up. I can not play in any league where Downie is that valuable. 3. At 0.2 a fight is worth 1 point which would be fair for those of you who still like to see a good spar.
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Post by Canes GM (Devin) on Jun 28, 2015 13:55:48 GMT
I have never really thought about this category much but I think Justin brings up a great point. PIM's are being rewarded in our league but in all actuality they negatively effect their teams in real life when they occur. There are very few occasions that PIM's positively effect a team. Like I mentioned in the shout box I don't like the idea of a player getting a 10 minute game misconduct for a dirty hit and them being rewarded 2 fantasy points for it.
Personally, I would like to see the PIM category removed.
If we want to vote to remove PIM I will start it out with...
Approve (1-0)
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Post by Bruins GM (Scott) on Jun 28, 2015 14:18:36 GMT
Approve (2-0)
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Post by Flyers GM (Justin) on Jun 28, 2015 14:34:35 GMT
Approve (3-0)
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Post by Oilers GM (Julian) on Jun 28, 2015 15:57:14 GMT
Removing PIM:
Approve 4-0
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Post by St.Pats GM (Christian) on Jun 28, 2015 21:07:12 GMT
Approve (5-0)
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Post by Coyotes GM(John) on Jun 28, 2015 21:17:24 GMT
Approve (6-0)
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Post by Sabres GM (Andrew) on Jun 29, 2015 0:07:19 GMT
Approve (7-0)
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Post by Jimmy Dickson on Jun 30, 2015 14:31:08 GMT
I'm going to go ahead and veto this rule change, sorry guys but the PIMs will stay at 0.5. As hockey continues to be sissified, penalty minutes are becoming more rare and therefore should actually be worth more. Come to think of it, I think we should probably raise their value to something closer to 2points each, about the same value as an assist, which is a bogus category (you didn't score the goal, who cares that you passed it to the guy who did all the work?!).
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Post by Canes GM (Devin) on Jun 30, 2015 14:41:12 GMT
First of all just because we get one disapprove vote doesn't mean the suggested rule change won't be passed. It is a majority league vote and as of right now more people approved the rule change.
Penalty minutes aren't becoming more rare, fighting is becoming more rare. Penalty minutes effect a team negatively as they have to play short handed. So why are we awarding points for something negative. I don't understand your reasoning about assists. A lot of times a goal doesn't occur without a nice pass to setup the easy goal.
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Post by Bruins GM (Allan) on Jun 30, 2015 16:25:06 GMT
Approve (8-1)
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Post by Blues GM (Trent) on Jun 30, 2015 18:09:31 GMT
Approve (9-1)
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Post by Sabres GM (Andrew) on Jun 30, 2015 19:42:42 GMT
Just for future votes;
The only way a vote is passed or declined is if 50% or more of the league votes (I think). So for this example, if you vote to "decline" a rule suggestion, yo don't veto the whole process, but simply taly your vote in the appropriate column.
Ie. For a 7 man league... Buffalo approves (1-0) --> 1/7 votes Hurricanes approves (2-0) --> 2/7 votes Edmonton declines (2-1) --> 3/7 votes Ottawa approves (3-1) --> 4/7 votes (+50%)
I haven't looked ar the rules in a bit, but I believe that's the just of it. Maybe canes or Edmonton can confirm/denie
Current voting score: 9 - 1
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Post by Canes GM (Devin) on Jun 30, 2015 20:36:08 GMT
That is my exact understanding.
It looks like this rule change is going to be passed regardless but for time being please ignore the one declined vote.
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Post by Quebec GM (Jeremy) on Jun 30, 2015 22:42:22 GMT
Approve. And does this "Jimmy" even own a team? LOL
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Post by Sabres GM (Andrew) on Jun 30, 2015 23:33:14 GMT
No lol. He wasn't following any of the rules, swearing a lot, just being unpleasant. If he was being like that from day 1 (today) I don't want to know what he's like in a year from now haha
If he's anyone's friend then sorry, maybe pm one of us and we can work something out. ---updated voting--- 10-0 (subtracted Jimmy's vote since he isn't in the league)
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Post by Canes GM (Devin) on Jun 30, 2015 23:42:04 GMT
As of right now Jimmy doesn't own a team because he can't follow directions.
that is why we are going to ignore his disapprove vote.
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Post by Penguins GM (Pat) on Jul 16, 2015 21:49:48 GMT
I vote no... oh well I guess
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Post by Habs GM (Loïk) on Aug 4, 2015 12:17:01 GMT
Sorry I'm re-opening this thread. So if I understand correctly, the rule in place gives 0.2 pts for a minor penalty and 1 pt for a fighting major?
If so, I love it. I love a good tussle and love players who play this style.
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Post by Oilers GM (Julian) on Aug 4, 2015 16:36:19 GMT
This thread was used to take out PIM scoring. If you want to suggest a new rule change for fighting you can open a new thread.
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